Continuing on with more comics that I bought as back issues on my first trip to Bush’s Hobbies in Ronkonkoma. I don’t believe that I had any idea that INVADERS had debuted in a Giant-Size issue first, but when I came across this beauty in the bins, I had to have it. As I’ve said before, I was a big Golden Age buff and INVADERS was one of my gateway series into Marvel. Plus this was a debut issue, which made it seem all the more awesome. INVADERS as a series was only up to around issue #28 when I bought this, so it suddenly seemed achievable for me to someday have the entire series (as opposed to, say, FANTASTIC FOUR or FLASH, for which the number of issues and the number of years felt insurmountable, for all that I wanted them all.)
INVADERS was the brainchild of Roy Thomas, probably the second most important writer in Marvel history after Stan Lee himself. Roy happens to be celebrating his 80th birthday today, in a bit of serendipity. At the time, having renewed his writer/editor contract with Marvel, Roy found that he needed another title to fill out his commitment, and his mind turned back to the Timely Comics heroes that he had enjoyed as a boy. In 1979, the era of these original comics seemed millennia away, but today in 2020, more time has now passed between when I bought this comic and now that there was between the War and when I first picked it up. Roy’s favorite series was always ALL-STAR COMICS featuring the Justice Society of America, so it was only natural of him to build a Marvel equivalent of the JSA. He’d even set such a team up in an issue of AVENGERS he had written many years earlier.
The artwork on the issue, and the series which followed it, was provided by Frank Robbins. Robbins was a bit of an acquired taste, and even today, his work can be divisive among fans. Some really liked his Caniff-inspired rendering. Others found his strange poses and compositions off-putting. Here in the first Invaders story, Roy made the choice to have Robbins’ work inked by Vince Colletta, who shaved off some of his rough edges (and no doubt shaved off a background detail or two along the way, as was his wont.) Of all of the work Robbins did for Marvel in his time with the organization, INVADERS was probably the best fit for his style–the 1940s milieu somehow made his idiosyncrasies seem like part of the local ambiance.
The story concerned a Nazi effort to recreate the Super-Soldier Formula (because of course it did) so that they could get their own equivalents to Captain America. In the opening, while they round up a pack of Nazi fifth columnists, Cap and Bucky are approached by an agent of the FBI, who tells them that he has news of Dr. Anderson, one of the men involved with the original Project; Rebirth that turned Steve Rogers into Captain America. The two heroes accompany the FBI man to a nearby hospital, where a stricken Anderson tells them of how he had been captured by Nazi goons who wanted to coerce him into revealing what he knew of the Super-Soldier Serum. Using a gizmo invented by the never-seen operative named Brain-Drain, they were able to extract the few crumbs that Anderson’s subconscious recalled about the procedure, and this were a step closer to being able to create their own Master Man counterpart to Cap.
As it turns out, the Human Torch and Toro came across that hidden enemy base and rescued Anderson–but not before the Nazis could activate their Master Man. It should probably be mentioned that, in creating Master Man, Roy was inspired by the genuine Golden Age villain Captain Zani, who had bedeviled Captain Marvel Jr. and the other Fawcett stalwarts, and who had debuted in MASTER COMICS. In any event, the Torch and Toro are still hanging around, so it’s four heroes who head out to track down Master Man before he can get up to any mischief.
Master Man, though, has transferred to a Nazi U-Boat and is seeking out a particular ship, intending to sink it and all aboard. He sets out about his mission, but is waylaid by the Sub-Mariner, who has been asked by British Naval Intelligence to safeguard this vessel. In short order, the other four heroes show up, and while Master Man gives a good accounting of himself in a running battle, eventually the imperfect Super-Soldier process that has empowered him runs its course and he reverts to his easily-dispatched former scrawny self. It turns out that the ship he was targeting was carrying Winston Churchill to a secret meeting with FDR, and Churchill implores the five costumed heroes to remain together as a fighting unit to invade the enemy stronghold until England and the USA can cement their own war plans. And so the Invaders are born.
Roy also includes a long text page detailing the backstory of how the series came to be. These sorts of personal touches were par for the course with Roy, and while they were undeniably fannish, they did help to establish a link between the writer/editor and the audience, some common ground on which everybody was simply a fan.
As was the case with all of the Giant-Size books Marvel was then putting out, the back of the issue reprinted a vintage story. In this case, it was a long adventure that had originally been published in SUB-MARINER COMICS #1 in 1941, and which detailed Namor’s first extended foray against the axis powers. This was one of the longest stories that Subbie’s creator Bill Everett got to do about his creation before he himself was inducted into the service, and it looks like Roy was able to find some decent reproduction materials for it. I’m half convinced that reprinting this stuff was the whole reason that Roy launched GIANT-SIZE INVADERS in the first place.
The story involves the Nazis realizing that in order to conquer the entire world, they’d need to lay siege to the undersea civilization that Namor comes from (not yet known as Atlantis)–and so they plan and execute an undersea blitzkreig. The Emperor of the sub-mariners is killed in the attack (though Roy points out in a long editorial note that, since he showed up alive again in later stories Everett did in the 1950s, he must have just been injured and in suspended animation) and young Namor takes over command of the defense of their city, driving off the invaders and striking back at their forces back at their main base. But it’s more a story about carnage and mayhem than plot, so the real attraction here is in seeing Namor lay waste to as many Nazi subs and tanks and men as possible.
The Tom Brevoort Experience 
That 2 page spread of Cap & Bucky fighting 5th Columnists outside reminds me of some of Tim Sake’s work. I know Robbins’ stuff, I’m almost as old as Tom Brevoort. I actually like much of Frank’s art, especially his Batman (I think he wrote more Bat-stories than he drew).
Happy Birthday, Roy Thomas…
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Tom:
Every now and then, I have a vague thought in response to your postings—but I can’t figure out how to post my ripostes. If you get a chance (and no, nothing about this is crucial), could you walk me through it?
Richard Howell
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Richard, I’m not sure what problem you’re experiencing, but you should be able to post any responses using the same methodology you used to post this question.
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I just bought all four reprint volumes of the invaders..i appreciate it much more now than back then..and i was working at marvel too..
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The odd combination of Robbins and Colletta worked surprisingly well.The art is less wonky than Robbins’ other efforts because Vince no doubt softened some of the hard edges in the pencils. We know that the inker is vastly underrated but the penciler also deserves a better ranking among comic book artists.
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I loved the Invaders too and I’m on the side of those who adored Robbins’ work! I always found it very visceral and exciting. No one drew manly men like Frank did back then.
I had only been reading comics for about four years at this point. I started at ten because my oldest memories of comics are the Defenders debut and Sand Superman and I loved this WW2 series when it came out as much as I loved the All Star Comics revival. I’d love to see it rebooted with a more serious look at the times it was set in, sort of like the difference between Hogan’s Heroes and M*A*S*H.
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I’m not a fan of Robbins art but i cant deny he is talented and has a unique style that he executes extremely well.
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As Nazi super-soldiers go I Master Man as an Invaders foe, but I like this unnamed Nazi version of a Super-Skrull better ( Thanks to Arnim Zola ( mistakenly made balding )’s machine has the combined powers of Captain America, Human Torch, Toro & Sub-Mariner )[ Captain America and Bucky#622 ( November 2011 ) ] — his powers faded but I’m sure someone can fix that ( Plus if mimics Captain America’s Super-Soldier Serum enhancements then he has the Sub-Mariner, Human Torch & Toro’s Powers under those enhancements too — making a little stronger & faster than Namor and whatever the Super-Soldier Serum would do for the Torch & Toro — remember the Torch was GROWN not built — just like the Androids called Robots in R.U.R. see the Wikipedia synopsis ).
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Long before the LAME Crazy SUES [ All-Winners Squad: Band of Heroes ( WHAT WASTE OF GOLDEN AGE HEROES )] or the Secret Invaders ( Soldier Supreme, Eric Brooks/Blade, Tank 666 ( 4 Ghost Riders ), War-Thing ( WW2 Man-Thing ) [ Avengers VII#50 ( February 2022 ) – vs. U-666 ( possessed by Mephisto ) ] I sent an email to Marvel pointing out the OTHER INVADER TEAMS ( and there would have been: If there were Howling Commandos, Missouri Marauders, Maulers, Leatherneck Raiders, Nisei Squadron & Deadly Dozen — then there would have been OTHER INVADER TEAMS ) would BE MORE POWERFUL since they wouldn’t have a members who either needed to stay wet or dry to use their powers or be a full power. PLUS, even though HELLBOY never fought during WW2, I was inspired to suggest a SUPERNATURAL TEAM OF INVADERS ( MADE UP OF TIMELY COMICS CHARACTERS unlike the lazy creators of the SECRET INVADERS: Like the golden age BLACK WIDOW, golden age VISION, LAO-CHING ( Chinese ghost — superhuman strength and undefined mystical powers able to control machinery and fire deadly lightning from his hands – All-Select#8 ( Summer 1944 ) Captain America story ]), FOURTH MUSKETEER ( French Ghost ), BLAZING SKULL, MONSTRO the MIGHTY, ROKO the AMAZING ( & MENELAOS ), SUPER SLAVE ( a genie — CAPPY & JANE ), —- TIMELY SORCERERS could take turns on the team — DAKOR the MAGICIAN, MAGAR the MYSTIC, MANTOR the MAGICIAN, MONAKO the MAGICIAN, LEANDER JONES ( sorcerer father of WHITEWASH JONES – [ Young Allies#10 ( Winter 1943 ) Young Allies First story — vs. Master of Souls ( Adam ) & Malapo ] ) & PRINCE OF GOOD ( from Davey & Demon stories -ancient foe of the Demon ). MAX the MAGICIAN [ Human Torch#10 ( Winter 1942-43 ) ] & CIGAM [ Marvel Mystery Comics#48 ( October 1943 ) Jimmy Jupiter story ] — I know I suggested that CIGAM could be MAGNUS possessing JONATHAN DREW during WW2 but MARVO the MAGICIAN ( a stage magician [ Marvel Mystery Comics#40 ( February 1943 ) Sub-Mariner story — killed but could have a protection spell if Magnus ] who shares the name of a rival golden age company’s sorcerer hero — Sure-Fire Comics#1 ( Ace Periodicals ) ). Probably forgetting other unofficial TIMELY COMICS HEROES — like RUNNING ELK ( Blackfoot medicine man from BLACK MARVEL’s first appearance & origin ). OR HERCULES who has a TIMELY COMICS appearance in a TOMMY TYME story.
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MYSTERY MEN#1-5 ( August-November 2011 — The Operative, The Surgeon, The Revenant, Achilles & The Aviatrix — ALL REDUNDANT since TIMELY COMICS HAS CHARACTERS THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN THERE PLACE ) — Just like Doctor Strange was in Marvel: The Lost Generation#8 ( July 2000 ) because in his FIRST comic book APPEARANCE his name was whispered around the world [ Strange Tales#110 ( July 1963 ) ] so too do TIMELY COMICS have HEROES who were active before their first comic book appearance: The ANGEL, MR. E, PHANTOM REPORTER, LAUGHING MASK ( see reprint in The Twelve#0 or marvunapp.com profile for his splash panel Night Raven/Big Man/Crime Master like other costume ), SUN GIRL ( active in 1920s to 1950 -Marvel Tales#97 ( September 1950 ) “danger in the Sun!” a partial story ), DAKOR the MAGICIAN, MONAKO the MAGICIAN ( In Revenant’s origin there is a stage magician seen who looks like him — REVENANT should have been TIMELY sorcerer LEANDER JONES [ Young Allies#10 ] father of Whitewash Jones — Leander used a Magic Gem in that story ), MOON-MAN, 3Xs ( 1X, 2X ( resembles SHIELD scientist Gaffer/Sidney E. Levine ) & 3X ), KA-ZAR, TROJAK, TIGERMAN, FERRET. Mr. E or Phantom Reporter ( The Operative ), Laughing Mask ( The Surgeon ), Leander Jones ( The Revenant ), The Angel ( Achilles ) & Sun Girl ( The Aviatrix ) — if Mr. E then his old enemy The Vampire ( who wasn’t one ) could take The General’s place ( FYI, TIMELY COMICS has American businessmen in bed with the Nazis that could be members of The Board. The lone female member I would find in the Angel and Cat’s Paw story in Marvel Mystery Comics#19 ( May 1941 ) — a costume party ).
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[ Kid Komics#5 ( Summer 1944 ) Destroyer story ( comics.org ) ] The title of a story in this issue – The Phantom Invaders — gives you the name of The Invaders teams answer to the Legion of Super-Heroes’ Espionage Squad ( Chameleon Boy, Invisible Kid 1& 2, Shrinking Violet & Phantom Girl ): Dynamic Man ( shape-changer & since he can make his clothes invisible then he should be able to make himself invisible too — see first appearance ), Invisible Man, Microman ( if his origin can be moved to an earlier time since there is nothing in the story that say it was 1940 ), Vision, Black Widow ( teleporter ), Witness ( teleporter – in his first appearance he was in the middle of nowhere and vanished ), Fourth Musketeer ( ghost ) & Lao-Ching ( ghost ). I suppose TIMELY’s sorcerers could work to — especially the ones that don’t need to say a spell.
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MYSTERY MEN: ANGEL how could he replace super-strong ACHILLES in the MYSTERY MEN? Marvel Mystery Comics#2 ( December 1939 ) text story — “Death-Bird Squadron” by David C. Cooke: Grybow, Poland — he had flexed his lithe muscles, and had bounded lightly to the top of the highest building in sight ( Leaping ability? He also leapt up to the closest Junker bomber from that roof top ). Later punched his fist through the metal skin of the flying monster! Inside the plane he through the pilot at the gunner with enough force to crush their skulls like egg-shells. After using the plane he was in own guns against the other bomber he aimed the one he was in at the others and leaped out of the plane hurtled through the air and landed easily on the street below. [ Marvel Mystery Comics#28 ( February 1942 ) Angel story -“The Horror of the Haunted Cathedral” — General Henchel ( Nazi general turned sentient zombie in the U.S. ) Army of Zombies; zombie monk ] — Both Baron Blood & the Zombie ( Simon Garth ) can lift 1,500 lbs and Baron Blood is seen back handing Captain America across a room and through a door in Captain America#253 ( January 1981 ) and yet when the Angel is seen being punched in the face/jaw by General Henchel the same does not happen. [ Marvel Mystery Comics#50 ( December 1943 ) the Angel is seen kicking a door of its hinges Buffy the Vampire Slayer style in Once More With Feeling ]. HOW to EXPLAIN the ANGEL’S NOW HE HAS NOW HE DOESN’T SUPER-STRENGTH? Perhaps it WORKS SIMILAR to the VAMP’S ABSORBO-BELT ( only he can retain it longer — which would explain ( unless the super-strong being around behind the scenes ) how has Super-Strength when there isn’t someone with it around ( before those stories and he met up with a super-strong Timely Comics hero ) ). NOT A REASON for the ANGEL to be ACHILLES replacement but the ANGEL was an ADULT DURING WORLD WAR 1 — so REVEAL those 2 MEN WHO CLAIMED TO BE THE ANGEL ARE IMPOSTERS. In Mystic Comics#7, while the henchmen didn’t know who The Witness was Natas did and before this The Witness says, “Once again have I witnessed a deed of evil!” — so The WITNESS was active before his first comic book appearance.
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LAO-CHING ( Chinese ghost mentioned above ) appears as an old man, but since 24 year old ( when she died ) vengeful ghost Mona Rand [ Journey into Mystery#8 ( May 1953 ) 2nd story — see marvunapp.com for profile ] can make herself look like an old woman ( crone like ) I don’t see why Lao-Ching can’t make himself look in his 20s.
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I can’t believe I forgot MAJOR LIBERTY ( who summons American ghosts ) as a member of my team of supernatural INVADERS — I was on Internationalhero.co.uk so that I wouldn’t leave out the official Timely Comics heroes. USA Comics#1, on the splash page THE SPIRITS OF FREEDOM –one could be the REVOLUTIONARY WAR CAPTAIN AMERICA in his revolutionary soldier uniform.
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In this issue 6 unnamed Nazi Scientists were seen working on the Super-Soldier Serum given to Master Man who be identified as Timely Comics Nazi Scientists: Dr. Hans Groitzig & Scharrolla [ Marvel Mystery Comics#50 ( December 1943 ) Patriot story — created the serum that empowered Mary Morgan/Miss Patriot — marvunapp.com ], Ottokar Meltzer/Vulture [ All-Select Comics#1 ( Fall 1943 ) Captain America story — developed a serum which endowed him with enhanced strength and the ability to fly — marvunapp.com ]. Perhaps the Lord Of Death [ All-Winners Comics#1 ( Summer 1941 ) Captain America story — his Di-Namo Fluid which transform humans into zombies could be a failed Super-Soldier Serum ( he could have been broken out of U.S. prison ) — marvunapp — also he should have been in Captain America: Hail Hydra & The Marvels Project ], Dr. Agony [ Captain America Comics#37 ( April 1944 ) Captain America first story — attempted to develop a serum which will make men immune to pain. Tula ( black panther that felt no pain with hypnotic purring ) — marvunapp & comics.org ] & ….
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The Master of Death ( in full body costume – dead? Survived the same way Baron Strucker did Marvel Universe#3 ( August 1998 ) ) [ Marvel Mystery Comics#59 ( October 1944 ) Sub-Mariner story “The Case of the Electric Killers” — Electric Killers ( electric eels ) – strange Nazi craft ( special submarine – page 6 )] could be identified as BARON ( Wernher ) von BLITZSCHLAG ( involved in the creations of Master Man, Warrior Woman & Vunder Knight )[ Avengers: The Initiative#1 ]. In The Marvels Project Nazi scientists were dissecting Atlantean bodies in their quest to create a “super-soldier serum” — so Professor Dorn ( before he defected? Mad scientist dead ) [ Marvel Mystery Comics#23 ( September 1941 ) Sub-Mariner story — Black John & 4 other “Sub-Mariners”, Ramon Valerez ( State Asylum escapee – dead ) & Mona Lake ( State Asylum escapee mind-controlled ) ].should have been in that series.
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COVENANT ( Vanessa Baker ( greatest of detectives ), Jefferson Chambers ( Brick Bradford type? ), Ulysses Bloodstone, Wyatt Crowley ( half-witch & something else ), Menace ( Shadow type – rich, hypnotic powers & knowledge of alchemy ) & Murderous Lion ( martial & mystic arts ) [ Captain America and Namor#635.1 ( October 2012 ) — The Thule, Kraken ( mystical skull tentacled mask worn by reanimated Atlantean ) ]. Now which TIMELY COMICS HEROES & CHARACTERS COULD REPLACE THEM? PRINCE OF GOOD ( alien sorcerer )[ Mystic Comics#9 ( May 1942 ) Davey and the Demon — ancient foe of The Demon ] takes Wyatt Crowley’s place ( So could the VISION have but I like the Prince of Good ). ZEPHYR JONES ( Flash Gordon type ) [ daring Mystery Comics#2 (February 1940 ) — Dr. Morrison Jones ( scientist-inventor father – dead ) & CORKY GROGAN ( pal/sidekick ) — Rocket-Ship ] takes Jefferson Chambers place ( OR Jefferson Chambers could be identified as one of THREE OF AMERICA’S GREATEST MINDS ( Page 1 panels 2 & 3, not Markham who is named on page 2 panel 1 but the one on page 3 panel 5 in the green suit ). MRS. PHILO BAKER [ The Human Torch#11 ( Spring 1943 ) Human Torch second story -“Mystery of the Blue Diamond” — Philo Baker ( poor inventor — PUFF GUN ( a disintegrator ) & father on unnamed son mentioned only — maybe Philo & Dr. Gade/Invisible Man worked on Project: Vanish – a disintegrator ray gun [ Tales of Suspense#68 ( August 1965 ) Captain America WW2 story ] ) vs. The Blue Diamond II ( Nazi mastermind ), Fritz & Hans ( dies ) — City Hospital mentioned ( a hospital that Dr. James Bradley/Dr. Nemesis worked at and in 1960s Marvel Comics Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Girl, Sif were patients at ( appears in The Amazing Spider-Men too )]. TANIR THE CRO-MAGNON [ Captain America Comics#1 ( March 1941 ) Tuk, Caveboy story ] I want ULYSSES BLOODSTONE to be as old as his nearest DC COMICS counterpart IMMORTAL MAN by revealing he is TANIR and Tanir helped Tuk regain ATTILAN ( How to explain Tuk’s Attilan which exist long before the Inhumans were created — simple, the original inhabitants of Attilan welcomed the Kree created Inhumans and those Inhumans turned them into Inhumans too ) and was injured beyond the advanced medical knowledge of the time so they placed Tanir in Suspended Animation until they could save his life ( like around Ulysses Bloodstone recorded time period ) — Street & Smith’s Red Dragon vol. 1 #9 ( January 1944 ) has IMMORTAL MAN ( Chuck Magnon — 100,000 years ago is struck by lightning and is made immortal. Roamed the world picking up knowledge, including that of ancient Atlantis, Greece and Rome. In modern era as Chuck Magnon, he sets up an office as “C. Ro-Magnon, Questions Answered? –Scientific Investigator ( Jess Nevins & Internationalhero.co.uk ).
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CHALLENGER’S ORIGIN [ Daring Mystery Comics#7 ( April 1941 )] Page 6 panel 4 ( JAPAN to lean Jiu-Jitsu — 3 Japanese seen — could his teacher be TENGU ( Ezaki Shigeru ) of the Shadowmasters ), panel 5 ( TIBET to learn chemistry — a Tibetan seen ), panel 7 ( INDIA to learn how to control his nerves — 2 Indians seen up close & 7 people seen in the distance ) & panel 8 ( PARIS, FRANCE to learn how to use a sword — 3 swordsmen seen ( Could his teacher be WW1’s CRIMSON CAVALIER? ) and Page 7 panel 1 ( GERMANY to learn how to be a marksman — 2 German army officers seen ), panel 2 ( ENGLAND to learn arial combat — 2 English pilots seen on panel 3 ), panel 4 ( AMERICA to learn mastering sports ( boxing, polo, swimming, football ).
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LAO-CHING ( a Chinese builder of the Great Wall of China – now avenging spirit )[ All Select Comics#8 ( Summer 1945 ) Captain America story “The Great Wall Mystery” — superhuman strength, mystical powers able to control machinery and fire deadly lightning from his hands ] could take Murderous Lion’s place ( I know not all Chinese know martial arts but as a hero maybe Lao-Ching does ). As for The Menace ( who Vanessa Baker says has been fighting criminals for decades ) — the ANGEL has been doing the same. If you want a TIMELY COMICS version of SHANG-CHI then LIANG ( Chinese Emissary & Chan’s bodyguard –dead? )[ Captain America Comics#6 ( September 1941) Captain America 2nd story “Meet the Fang, Arch-Fiend of the Orient” — Chan ( Chinese emissary ) vs. The Fang, Chu Yin, Hatchet-Men ( Wong, and 6 others ),Wong ( masked executioner with a sword ), Baron Nushima ( Japanese ) ( FANG could be counterpart to Pulp’s Dr. Yen Sin or Wu Fang ) ] — I know LIANG took a hatchet to the back ( sure it could have severed his spinal cord and killed him, but since it did look from the shadow on the wall like it went in to deep it could have it elsewhere on his back and the FBI lied about him dying to keep Hatchet-Men from attack a hospital. If you want a last name for Liang go with the Mandarin word LI LIANG ( Power, Force ).
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Possible COVENANT replacement for Wyatt Crowley ( To add another woman to the team & a full witch ): WIDJIT the WITCH ( originally green later Caucasian )[ Comedy Comics#13 ( January 1943 ) created by Stan Lee & Kim Platt — ( she is assisted by Diogenes her talking broomstick ) – Jess Nevins Encyclopedia of Goldem Age Superheroes says she joins the WACs to fight against the Germans ( USA Comics#7 ( February 1943 ) Captain Daring II story ( leader of the Sky-Sharks ) — on page 1 there are 3 WACS seen – one could be WIDJIT the WITCH and there are Lt. Betty Ross’s WACs ( Captain ( black hair ) & 3 other WACs ( blonde, red head & black hair ) — there might have been more, cause the Captain was sent to the hospital, Betty was with Cap & Bucky but 5 WACs kick the butts of the Mongoose and his thugs with baseball bats ) [ Captain America Comics#33 ( December 1943 ) Captain America 3rd story — vs. The Mongoose & 5 thugs ( 1 dead ), Leibschen ( a mongoose ) ] — ADRIANA “ANA” SORIA ( QUEEN ) [ Spectacular Spider-Man III#15 ( August 2004 ) ] could be one of those WACs. If BETTY DEAN was ever a WAVE(? – Navy version of WACs ) there is a attractive blonde WAVE in a WIDJIT the WITCH story ( I have it on my USB ).
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JEFFERSON CHAMBERS ( Covenant member ) [ Captain America And Namor#635.1 ( October 2012 ) ] — I was wrong about his counterpart being Brick Bradford ( who uses a Time-Top that also travels to other planets ), going by his gear he looks more like WHIZ WILSON ( Futurescope device he wears on his chest to harness gravity, space, and time to project himself into the future, other planets and so on. Futurescope enables him to fly also ) [ Sure-Fire Comics#1 ( June 1940 ) ( Ace ) – https://jessnevins.com/encyclopedia/whizwilson.html ] — 10 appearances.
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HELLHUNTERS ( It is as if Marvel thinks it is Image Comics and has no 1940s REAL WORLD COMIC BOOK PAST– Ghost Rider ’44 ( When there are already 4 Ghost Riders in Tank 666 during WW2 ), Logan ( Wolverine ), Nick Fury ( Got a job with the Howling Commandos — so why is he here ), Peggy Carter, Bucky ( Got 3 other teams — why him and not TORO? ) & Soldier Supreme ( unneeded mystic when TIMELY COMICS has SORCERERS & UNOFFICIAL SORCERERS ) ): If it is about NON-COSTUMED HEROES then JOHN STEETLE ( Hugo Danner him up — I mean Young All-Stars version with Action Comics#1 Superman level power ( leap 1/8 of a mile, hurdle a 20 story building, super-strength, super-speed & durability — Action Comics#1 ( !938 ) page 1. Just reveal the John Steele that popped up is a BIO-DUPLICATE like the ONES USED BY MADAME MASQUE and WEAKER THAN THE REAL JOHN STEELE like the SUPERMAN ROBOTS WERE ), MARIE ANTOINETTE ( French WW1 Spy — She gets captured with John Steele during WW1 and experimented on by Arnim Zola and gets Telekinesis too ) [ Daring Mystery Comics#1 (January 1940 ) John Steele story — who should revealed to be the SENSATIONAL MADEMOISELLE ( Showgirl – Telepath who could read minds ( red hair ) — around 1900 )[ Journey Into Mystery#10 ( July 1953 ) 4th story — see Marvunapp.com profile. Plus she could be that WW1 female mutant ( black hair ) that was a member of Tobias Messenger’s group X-Men: The Hidden Years#19 ( June 2001 ) ], LEANDER JONES ( Sorcerer with a magic gem – Father of Whitewash Jones ) [ Young Allies#10 ( Winter 1943 ) Young Allies ], RUNNING ELK ( Blackfoot medicine man ) [ Mystic Comics#5 ( March 1941 ) Black Marvel story ], BLACK MARVEL ( Blackfoot Indigenous Hero ( There are Blackfeet in Canada ) –NOT DAN LYONS ) [ Mystic Comics#5 ( March 1941 ) “The Legend of the Blackfeet” – Text Story ( If loser from the Future can come to the present to be heroes then why can’t he get displaced in time and end up during WW2? ) ], WIDJIT the WITCH ( Jess Nevins’ Golden Age Encyclopedia says she was a WAC )[ Comedy Comics#13 ( January 1943 ) ]. LUTHER ROBINSON & LYNNE HARRIS ( Given Atlantean Abilities in couple of issues later ) [ Marvel Mystery Comics#10 ( August 1940 ) Sub-Mariner story ], GARY GAUNT ( THROWBACK ( name taken from Comics.org’s title for his story & make him like this with no altered origin [ Marvel Adventures Super Heroes#21 ( May 2010 ) ] ) [ Mystic Comics#9 ( May 1942 ) ], DAVEY DREW ( see if the Cloak the Demon gave him protects him from other supernatural threats & give him the guns not Bucky )[ Mystic Comics#7 ( December 1941 ) Davey and the Demon ] & BLAZING SKULL ( Give him GHOST RIDER/JOHNNY BLAZE’s ABILITY to CREATE OBJECTS like the Hellfire motorcycle — create more than just motorcycles )[ Mystic Comics#5 ( March 1941 ) ].
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Plus why would anyone have Bucky on a team like that instead of legendary monster killer like HERCULES [ Young Allies#16 ( Summer 1945 ) Tommy Tyme vs. Antaeus ( who during WW2 Mars ( Ares ) could have brought back imitating what the Enchantress did to Barbara Norris ( Valkyrie ) ] or why not recruit this FRANKENSTEIN MONSTER [ USA COMICS#13 ( Summer 1944 ) Captain America story “The Curse of Frankenstein” ].
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TIMELY COMICS Mademoiselle ( Margaret “Peggy” Carter ) Prototypes ( French & Italian ): JOAN ( French Guerilla leader –on last page She & Steve were daydreaming about each other ) [ Captain America Comics#32 ( November 1943 ) Captain America 3rd story – vs. the Vulture 2 ] and SIGNORINA ( Italian spy for allies ) [ Captain America Comics#34 ( January 1944 ) Captain America 3rd story — vs. Herr Captain ] — SIGNORINA could be identified as CONTESSA VERA VIDAL ( CONFEDERATES OF THE CURIOUS — Immortal Iron Fist Annual#1 ( November 2007 ) Lucky Pierre ( Ernst Erskine ), Seamus “Chores” McGillicuddy, Wendell Rand, Shadu the Shady & Orson Randall/Iron Fist. Plus Barko ( a dog ) ) — RAND FAMILY [ Captain America Comics#11 ( February 1942 ) 2nd story page 7 panel 7 is a little boy ]. MAX the MAGICIAN [ Human Torch#10 ( Winter 1942-1943 ) ] could take SHADU the SHADY’s place. ORSON RANDALL/IRON FIST ( as one of BETTY DEAN’S LEGION OF LOYALISTS with the PRINCE OF ORPANS as JOHN or in JOHN STEELE’s ONLY TIMELY COMICS appearance among the SOLDIERS on PAGE 1 ).POWERHOUSE PEPPER ( Super-Strength, Durability, Speed & Can Absorb & Store electricity ( they tried to kill him in the Electric Chair. But can he absorb other forms of EM Energy? ) [ Joker Comics#1 ( April 1942 ) ]– there is a bald man at the opening performance of a new play [ Comedy Comics#9 ( April 1942 ) Silver Scorpion story page 1 panel 2 ( left shoulder of Dan Hurley sitting behind him )] that could be identified as POWERHOUSE PEPPER and he could have been in the HELLHUNTERS. HOW TO GET — GARY GAUNT’S ALTER-EGO ( THROWBACK ) active during the day time, use MAGIC ( a TIMELY COMICS SORCERER could ENCHANT HIS BELT so WHEN HE SAYS A BACK WORD/FORMULA WOULD BE BETTER ( Think DC Comics JOHNNY QUICK’S SPEED FORMULA that no one would say in any conversation ) and a invisible magic field goes up around his body tricking it into thinking the Sun went down .
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POWERHOUSE PEPPER: Super-Speed [ Powerhouse Pepper#2 ( Spring 1948 ) 6th story ( he picked up what was left of his race car and for 20 miles ran and came in first just beating a race car — huffing and puffing, so not an easy feat for him ) ] and Absorb Electricity [ Powerhouse Pepper#4 ( September 1948 ) “A Hot Squat Shot” & at point blank range a bullet bounced off his head ] & Artillery Shell bounce off his skull [ Joker Comics#8 ( April 1943 ) & lifted a ton and 3 ounces anchor with one hand ] & Durability & Strength [ Joker Comics#9 ( June 1943 ) unharmed by a large mallet blow to head, sawing his stomach, axe to his back and survived TNT explosion he was sitting on. He then tossed Pyramid ( as in Egyptian ) stone away like they were footballs ].
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LEANDER JONES: Either late last week or over the weekend after spotting a site that ranked the newest Justice League Dark members by most powerful, Zatanna’s logomancy made me remember something about LEANDER JONES — his spells are in Pig Latin ( So between his Magic Gem & Pig Latin, I wonder if he isn’t an amalgamation of Sargon & Zatara in powers? Pig Latin taking the place of Zatara speaking words backwards as his spells ). Boot the Mystery Men, The Twelve, The Marvels Project, Venom ( Flexo the Rubber Man being a protosymbiote instead of WHAT HE REALLY IS — a PROTOTYPE to the LEADER’S HUMANOIDS that he shares more in common with ) & Marvel 1000 ( WW2 characters ) over to a What If world.
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JOAN [ Captain America Comics#32 ] in French is JEANNE.
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MONAKO, PRINCE OF MAGIC [ Daring Mystery Comics#1 ( January 1940 ) vs. Mr. Muro ( his Baron Mordo ) & Tashu ] could be identified as one of the DEMON OF THE MASK [ Strange Tales#136 ( September 1965 ) Doctor Strange story ]’s PRISONERS ( see profile at Marvunapp.com — right next to the words “The former prisoners of the Demon of the Mask” in the TOP HAT ) and to the right of “Monako” not in focus could be OTHER TIMELY COMICS HEROES ( DYNAMIC MAN, CAPTAIN WONDER ( & his sidekick TIM ), FIERY MASK, BLACK WIDOW, ROCKMAN, EXCELLO, WITNESS, JOHN STEELE, BLAZING SKULL, DAKOR, MAGAR, MANTOR, MERZAH, MAX THE MAGICIAN, ANGEL, BLUE BLAZE, HERCULES ( Varen David ), INVISIBLE MAN, MAJOR LIBERTY, MARVEL BOYS ( 1 & 2 ), ROKO THE AMAZING, YOUNG AVENGER, THE TOP, GARY GAUNT ( THROWBACK ) & GYPSY GIANT or some of these heroes along with non-powered heroes could have been sent on a Military Mission to investigate the ISLAND/ISLE VUK ( The Medusa Alien ) was on in the Mediterranean Sea [ The Avengers#4 ( March 1964 ) ] and got turned to STONE ( Did the Avengers keep his weapon? ). To bad, ELECTRO, RUDY THE ROBOT & FLEXO ( if Professor Zog, Li’l Professor & Williams brothers aren’t physically with them is immune to the Demon of the Mask’s power & so is MARVEX ). JUST BOOT — THE TWELVE over to a WHAT IF World.
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